Friday, July 3, 2009

4th of July - Is the New York Times Anti-American?

Is the New York Times un-american??

No. They are the last bastion of free thought in this country (-10 pts)
 
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No, but they kind of suck (-5 pts)
 
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Not Sure (0 pts)
 
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Yes, they have gone off the deep end (5 pts)
 
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Yes, and anyone that believes a word they write is a moron (10 pts)
 
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NYT - rather use it to start my fireplace than read it (you are a patriot 50 pts)
 
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In high school and junior college, I took classes in journalism, and majored in broadcast communications in college. The big names in the industry have come and gone, but the really big newspapers, the ones that almost have that aura of greatness were papers like the New York Times...yet reading a opinion piece in that paper about flying the flag, and its significance,  and the comments posted by readers,  made my stomach turn and blood boil.
Here is a sample:

"...in the Bush years of sanctioned torture and war built on deceit, many Americans withdrew from overt displays of patriotism. Some said they were ashamed of their country."

"Obama, the candidate, tried to explain why he initially stopped wearing a flag pin in 2007. No doubt, he was speaking for a lot of fellow citizens. “Shortly after 9/11, particularly as we were talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for, I think, true patriotism,” he said in 2007. “I decided I won’t wear that pin on my chest.”

Obama’s comment sounded like a more tortured version of Samuel Johnson’s aphorism about patriotism being the last refuge of scoundrels... he neutered the public blowhards who costumed themselves in red, white and blue at the peak of the Bush presidency.

If your great-great-grandparents were bought and sold in chains at slave markets in the south, then perhaps you might have reason for mixed feelings about the flag.

If you were one of thousands of American citizens interned by your own government during World War II, then again, the flag would give you pause at times.

Or worse, if you were run off your land, the land of your ancestors, and not granted full citizenship until 1924 – American Indians, a storyline whose only changes are geographic – the flag can seem foreign, at best.

The challenge is to look at the whole of it – the awful history with the daring leaps of progress – and see something living, ever-evolving. "

My take on this narrative is that it suppose we as readers will agree and in solidarity with the oppressed among us NOT fly the flag....oh but wait, here is what NYT readers thought:
"Actually I think the real question to be asked here is: why do so many Americans (of any political persuasion) feel an urge to display their national flag outside their homes, businesses, on their lapels? Among democratic nations at least, this is a uniquely American behavior, which is baffling and frankly rather off-putting to foreign visitors."

"A 4th of July question? Is the US the best country in the world? Safest from crime? Fewest in jail? Most educated? Health care for all? Safest banks?Why celebrate?"
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Yes, I bought two big flags last January on the day before inauguration day, and I put them up at my business on holidays.

To make it short: we got our country back."

[Canice note:
I am so lucky to be an American! I have traveled extensively outside my home, the United States. The United States is still the beacon of hope for people around the world. Our freedoms, our all-inclusive open-ness, our culture that encourages and permits adventure and exploration, out lack of pretentiousness, our genuineness….is a gift to ourselves and the world. The Fourth of July is when we should pause and give thanks that with all our problems, we are the luckiest society in the world.
I am blessed to be a citizen of The United States! And I wish all my fellow citizens a Happy and Prosperous Fourth of July! ]


12 comments:

  1. I voted..........and i do have a fireplace :)

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  2. Since you live a privileged life, you do see things differently than those not so fortunate; not that it is wrong, we all see things based on our own experiences. To answer your question I would need more data; two quotes is hardly enough to form an opinion, and I don't read the New York Times on a daily basis. The New York Times reader statement was not accurate. The Birts are just as fond of displaying the Union Jack as USA citizens are of Old Glory.

    I think we are still losing our country as much as ever. It is sad to witness the country moving away from long standing ideology, and see the USA citizens embracing ideology that we once fourth against.

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  3. I have one too!! My friend does the crossword puzzle......then it goes in the fireplace. Not a word is believable.

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  4. Way back in the early 60's the Russian leader Nikita K. damn I can't spell the last name.Told J.F.K "Someday your children will live under Communism" A future foretold or a warning?

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  5. It is said that democracy will turn to communism and communism to democracy. I heard Putin told BO to not go down that road cause it didn't work for them. But he's doing it anyway. When can we consider his actions treason?

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  6. cant even burn it in the fireplace, it stinks too much...........Happy Independence Day Everyone!

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  7. ahhhh, but a good way for something to die.....ashes to ashes........dust to dust.......hehehehehehe

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  8. It ain't allowed in the house or on the property, don't want my trash can, illegal wood stove or animals corrupted.

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  9. I don't read the NY Times nor do I fly any flags. I rather doubt that when all is added up, one country is truly better than another. They are made up of people and we all have our faults and qualities and need to change radically within to put the world on a track to being a better place for all. It is not the system which will determine this--we could have have different kinds of government that would be good, if the people in it were good, not picking on anyone here, just saying we all need to change; it is a question of our inner nature, universally. I would like to see a world without borders, no more us vs. them.

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  10. Ah yes, the proverbial utopia, not us or them, no money, everyone has what they need, universal health care and mankind toils to further enlightenment and knowledge. Then envy raises its ugly head, and perceptions become reality, leading to struggle...and we devolve back to where we were...but I to wish it were otherwise..

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  11. Privileged life? That is based on what? To my live in brother in law, who makes minimum wage, I make a large income, yet to me its medicocre, considering that mine is the income that essential pays for our home and its expenses. It was not always so, for many many years I worked crappy jobs and barely had enough for rent and food. We couldn't afford heating oil and heated our shack of a house with a wood stove from a thrift store. But I always knew that if i kept trying to move up, eventually I would catch a break and do just that. It took a lot of ambition and self motivation. This comment about privileged life really offends me, its like my brother who for years thought I was handed these jobs and promotions, not earned them by hard work and demonstrating my skills. In 1983 our family was below poverty, and today we are "middle class". And I do give 15% of my gross to charity because I still remember how it feels to be "less fortunate"..but I have no guilt over where I am.

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  12. beyaself said it before I could. It's Independence Day, and should be called that. 4th of July is just a date, and I have heard other people comment on this issue, that the attempt to stop calling it Independence Day is a form of revision so we can forget the important historical event.
    I am Canadian, living in Montana. Most people think that Canada is a more socialist country than here. They are right, for now. I still find that there are plenty of welfare programs here, giving too much opportunity for people who don't want to work. I have done a lot of study about this countries history, even before I moved here, yet have stepped it up since I arrived. The founders who created teh declaration, and later the constitution, were geniuses. If such a thing were attempted today, I am convinced that it would be so convoluted with gobbledygook legalese language it would be unreadable for the average citizen.
    I don't know you, canice, but I do not understand the comment about you living a priveleged life. The little you have said here tells me that you have worked all your life. Somehow there are people who don't believe we deserve what we have earned through our own efforts. I do hope that is not what that comment is about.
    Privileged, or just great good luck to be born in this country? I accept that. I feel privileged to live here as an immigrant.
    I do have a 3'x5' flag hanging on my wall in this room. It's beautiful.
    Have a good independence day all! God Bless you.

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